Repair FAQ
Date: Nov 5th, 2009
Here are the questions that have been asked by CHC members and here are the answers from Capital Projects Committee's (CPC) perspective.
All these questions have been asked to us and CPC has made no decision as to what we will be recommending to the Elders and CHC.
- What is the status of both design and timing of the McCallum Road interchange? Design finalized and construction is expected to start in March 2010 and finish in March 2011.
- What will happen to Hawthorne Road? Under the most recent design it remains open and connects into the new roundabout at the interchange. We do not expect the design to change.
- If we sell land what parts could we sell and how much money would we receive? It is premature to state what land, if any, we would sell and the value we would receive. This is information that is currently being gathered by the CPC.
- What would be the timing and phasing of a demolition of the existing church building and construction of a new church building? Approximately 2.5 - 3 years to decide, design, fund-raise and construct new building
- Where would we meet during a rebuild? We would plan on the basis that Nikkel Hall would remain open during construction.
- If a new building, when would we move in? (see $4 above)
- What are all the options and costs of each 3 options (detailed breakdown)? The main options are repairing the existing church, demolishing all buildings and rebuilding a new church or demolishing part of our church and building a new section. More research is required to arrive at cost estimates.
- Is it possible the City would not allow us to repair the "Leaky Condo" because it may be beyond repair? We are confident the structure can be repaired.
- Is relocation a possibility? Our committee has investigated this option and does not recommend a relocation.
- Would we consider not repairing or rebuilding and sell our land and plant churches instead? Our Committee does not recommend this option.
- What is the amount of work and cost to repair worship centre plus amount of time to do the work? Cost estimates are being researched. Time to repair is 6-12 months but we expect to be able to occupy the worship centre during this repair phase of the exterior (other than the collapsed portion).
- Would we consider demolishing old section, repairing new section and expanding new section? (see number 7 above)
- What will insurance pay for and how much? At this point they will pay for only the cost to repair the hole which is estimated to be around $200,000.
- What is the current number of giving units. 479 units.
- Attendance status compared to past? (Average attendance per Sunday)
Year: 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Attendance: 1163 1150 1155 1164 1115 1013 996 882 - Who will make the final decision and when? The congregation, and we are now working on the timing to a final decision.
- Where do we go from here? Our committee works with the City on access issues and works to refine construction cost estimates (please see the path to decision making and the assignment of duties for more information).
- What do we own and how much is it worth? We own 8.3 acres of land, plus the church building and one house that occupies the land. We are getting expert advice on land values at present.
- How can we get out of the contract with the City on arena parking? We do not have any contracts with the City or any other organization as it relates to parking.
- How much land does the City need from us for the interchange? A very small portion on the Hawthorne Road side of the church.
- How much space do we have and how much do we need? We have 120,000 square feet and believe we need 45,000 square feet, although further research is being completed to confirm this number.
- Remember to factor in the cost to maintain/operate the old structure compared to a new building? Yes we will, this research is underway.
- What is our capacity to borrow? We have started to research that question.
- Where will we get money? Who can we borrow from? We can do some or all of the following: Fund raise with members, borrow from members, Canadian MB conference, borrow from traditional financial institutions, sell surplus land***
- How will we service debt? From the giving by congregation***
- Our vision was set before collapse. Is God saying revisit your vision? Elders are praying over this question.
- New building decreases operating costs? Agreed (see #22 above).
- Should we just repair and sell some small lots to raise the money? That option is being considered.
- Are you worried that too much time is passing and people are losing interest? This is a concern, but we must move carefully and prayerfully.
- Where would we get money to buy land from the City? (see #24 above). At this point we neither need nor expect to buy any land from the city.
- Remember renovations almost always cost more than expected? The committee agrees, so we are refining our cost estimates.
- Has the hole been fixed? No, we have only reinstalled our fire protection systems that were dismantled during the collapse.
- When can we use the worship centre? We are in discussions with the City to better understand the remediation requirements and their rationale. Until we have these answers we can not determine when we can be back in the worship centre.
- What other building issues are there if we move back into the worship centre? Repairing the roof and exterior, repairing the a number of air conditioning units and replacing the carpet will remain issues and will still need to be addressed.
- What is the current dollar settlement that we could potentially received from the insurer? Approximately $200,000 - $210,000.
- Why did we not fix the floor a year ago? We only received a Building Permit to commence repairs in August 2009. This is not meant to critize the City but to point out that the issue is complicated.
CPC Members:
Mark Driediger, Brian Gaudet (co-chairmen), Bill Bartleman, Doug Kasper, Milton Koop, Len Reddicopp, Brad Willems, Dan Kyte, Bruce Konrad, Chris Douglas, Steve Boakes, Tim Derksen